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They say ideas are the most contagious and cannot be stopped, so i'm trying to help spread some good ideas, and to also help get good ideas for myself so i can use it to achieve my own goals in life too. All the shit i do everyday isn't just for fun or gossip, i'm doing research to understand how the world works and how everyone thinks etc etc, and i still have hope for the world, and i still think it can be done, regardless of whatever other bullshit is going on in the world(like in the US with Trump for instance). He can do his bullshit, it doesn't affect me, in fact, i think his bullshit will help such movements, since people will hopefully figure out that they cannot rely on government or a corrupt/broken democracy to get the change that they want..
I'm looking for some ideas, and just wanna see what you guys think, since it's also not set in stone. I've been thinking about something like this a long time, and i've wanted to do something to help the world for a long time now, and i think this is as good a part to start as any. At the start i was thinking in terms of local/national level politics, but that's too small/short sighted, and won't even get close to the goals/changes in the world that i want. I was also thinking, the longer i wait, the harder it will be, since govs seem to be cracking down on the internet, and internet will be a vital way for me to communicate with people around the world and to organize shit..
The main points is to 'unite' all like minded people together.. and to fight against the 'divide and conquer' strategy that businesses/governments use to exploit the common man. I'm thinking something like anonymous/pirate party etc, but a serious one with proper goals/vision, and not just isolated to one issue..
The group/movements 'core' mission statement will be as thus;
Rejection of nationalism. It will be a GLOBAL movement, and my current rationale for the rejection of nationalism/patriotism is this..
WAR.
Wars are only possible and only happen because of national armies, and national agendas. If we can get over this, we can hopefully become a huge global organization which can pool together our resources and also fuck around with national level politics, and affect change on national level like this. We can beat the billionaires this way, we can also compete vs huge multinational corporations like this, which are the REAL players. They also are doing this right now, and due to citizens united, why shouldn't we, the common people do this? Why shouldn't we, the citizens, UNITE and make use of CITIZENS UNITED? We're the 99%, no? But yeah. IIRC, even the bottom 99% have only like 10-20% of the money or something, but at least we're united, while the billionaires are all against each other and not united, because they are too greedy/selfish. So we will divide them, and we will unite ourselves. Let's make it happen. Then once we're up there, we can also change the system from inside, if anything. Or even if we can't do it from inside, we have the numbers on our side in terms of population, so yeah. We can do it in full on revolution style if we need to. We can organize on the internet, and organize rallies for any number of causes, rather than having to organize 1 different rally/protest every single fucking time and then go home and forget about it after they lose/lost etc. This will be a long term thing, and we will NEVER go away. They can arrest a few of us, but the movement will be world wide, no single government will be able to crack down on it or shut it down. There will be too many, it will be like anonymous, but stronger, and not just for little bored kids. I've always believed in the power of the internet to aid democracy and to aid the common man, i think it's about time it happened. I can't just keep waiting for some genius programmer to make some shit, i gotta do my part too. The time is now.
US vs Them mentality.
Nationalism promotes us vs them mentality. So naturally, i wanna fuck this shit off. The group will be multicultural(obviously), and yeah.
Secular in nature; my rationale for it being secular is this;
organized religions seem to corrupt, and seem to also promote us vs them mentality, and it also seems to promote intolerance, and seems to promote IGNORANCE, ie like such thinking as the world is flat or whatever. But mainly us vs them mentality, since they can never seem to think of themselves as equal to someone else in another religion, or as equal to someone else who is agnostic/atheist etc. Everyone is gonna be equal in this movement, and this movement will have to be number 1 priority, so religion cannot be there, since real religious people should be putting religion/god above EVERYTHING else in life, no? So yeah. If you wanna be spiritual or religious, do it in your own time and i won't care. But this group and it's goals have to come first, above nationalism, above religion, above everything. That's the only way we'll accomplish anything..
It won't be purely anti theist(i think, let me know what you guys think), or hate on religions since like 75% of people in the world seem to identify as religious, no?) but it will be secular in nature, and it will also promote education/reason/logic. So obviously things without proof like gods or anything else which cannot be backed up and go against reason/logic will not be part of it. This doesn't mean that there won't be any 'spiritual' aspect to it, but it just won't be promoting the "us vs them" mentality and the groupthink that organized religion has fallen prey to.
The main ideas are to stop wars/conflict, and to make the world more secular and less ignorant/corrupt, and to hold those in power to account and make things more transparent. So basically i wanna improve on our current democratic ideals and use the internet to improve the world and address/solve the worlds most pressing problems. We can't just rely on benevolent billionaires like Bill Gates or rely on whistleblowers and activists like Snowden/Assange to martyr themselves over and over, when no one will even step up to the plate to continue in their footsteps after.. I think the internet and shit like leaking(wikileaks) etc has played a huge part in it, and i want to continue that trend, and hopefully before the govs of the world crack down on internet and force people like me to no longer be able to talk or even THINK about doing something like this, which probably won't be too far off, based on the shit i've seen.. like how China is gonna make everyone who posts on forums to have to use their real name by OCT 1st THIS YEAR!
This is where i'm at currently, it's a work in progress. Let me know your ideas on how to use the power of the internet and global communication in order to make a better world for EVERYONE. The catholic church/religious organizations and other corporations use their global nature and pooled resources to fuck with national level politics, so why shouldn't we?
Let me know what you guys think, and whether any of you guys would be interested in joining and also recruiting others in your country/region/area etc or wanna be an organizer/contributor or whatever etc.
Let me also know if you have any other ideas for what i can add to the mission statement, and what other shit i need to think about in terms of organization/rallying people to this movement/cause/idea.
EDIT:From what i've gathered speaking to people, apathy and selfishness are real hurdles that we need to overcome. Capitalistic system hasn't helped to promote the growth of such movements as the one i have envisioned. That's why when i see people say they are christian etc, i call bullsiht. If they were real christians, they should/would be supporting such movements as mine, or their church would be promoting such ideas in the first place. But since they don't, and since none of their congregation or whatever don't call them out on it, i don't have much hope. But if you never ask/try, you will never know, so yeah.
Also, once people get married and/or have kids, their whole world turns into selfishness, and they get 'fuck the world, i'm only here for my family' mentality, and then it's 'too late' for them. They have too much to lose, and cannot give up their current way of life or they have to pay off mortgage n shit etc. It's a vicious cycle, and i understand. But i also don't buy the reasoning that they are 'innocent' either, since they are the ones who chose to have kids and they are the ones who chose to get a mortgage etc. Jesus never had kids or had mortgage, and priests n shit don't have kids/family just for this very reason, so they can do the 'lords work', and not be 'corrupted' by earthly/materialistic urges, no?
They say ideas are the most contagious and cannot be stopped, so i'm trying to help spread some good ideas, and to also help get good ideas for myself so i can use it to achieve my own goals in life too. All the shit i do everyday isn't just for fun or gossip, i'm doing research to understand how the world works and how everyone thinks etc etc, and i still have hope for the world, and i still think it can be done, regardless of whatever other bullshit is going on in the world(like in the US with Trump for instance). He can do his bullshit, it doesn't affect me, in fact, i think his bullshit will help such movements, since people will hopefully figure out that they cannot rely on government or a corrupt/broken democracy to get the change that they want..
I'm looking for some ideas, and just wanna see what you guys think, since it's also not set in stone. I've been thinking about something like this a long time, and i've wanted to do something to help the world for a long time now, and i think this is as good a part to start as any. At the start i was thinking in terms of local/national level politics, but that's too small/short sighted, and won't even get close to the goals/changes in the world that i want. I was also thinking, the longer i wait, the harder it will be, since govs seem to be cracking down on the internet, and internet will be a vital way for me to communicate with people around the world and to organize shit..
The main points is to 'unite' all like minded people together.. and to fight against the 'divide and conquer' strategy that businesses/governments use to exploit the common man. I'm thinking something like anonymous/pirate party etc, but a serious one with proper goals/vision, and not just isolated to one issue..
The group/movements 'core' mission statement will be as thus;
Rejection of nationalism. It will be a GLOBAL movement, and my current rationale for the rejection of nationalism/patriotism is this..
WAR.
Wars are only possible and only happen because of national armies, and national agendas. If we can get over this, we can hopefully become a huge global organization which can pool together our resources and also fuck around with national level politics, and affect change on national level like this. We can beat the billionaires this way, we can also compete vs huge multinational corporations like this, which are the REAL players. They also are doing this right now, and due to citizens united, why shouldn't we, the common people do this? Why shouldn't we, the citizens, UNITE and make use of CITIZENS UNITED? We're the 99%, no? But yeah. IIRC, even the bottom 99% have only like 10-20% of the money or something, but at least we're united, while the billionaires are all against each other and not united, because they are too greedy/selfish. So we will divide them, and we will unite ourselves. Let's make it happen. Then once we're up there, we can also change the system from inside, if anything. Or even if we can't do it from inside, we have the numbers on our side in terms of population, so yeah. We can do it in full on revolution style if we need to. We can organize on the internet, and organize rallies for any number of causes, rather than having to organize 1 different rally/protest every single fucking time and then go home and forget about it after they lose/lost etc. This will be a long term thing, and we will NEVER go away. They can arrest a few of us, but the movement will be world wide, no single government will be able to crack down on it or shut it down. There will be too many, it will be like anonymous, but stronger, and not just for little bored kids. I've always believed in the power of the internet to aid democracy and to aid the common man, i think it's about time it happened. I can't just keep waiting for some genius programmer to make some shit, i gotta do my part too. The time is now.
US vs Them mentality.
Nationalism promotes us vs them mentality. So naturally, i wanna fuck this shit off. The group will be multicultural(obviously), and yeah.
Secular in nature; my rationale for it being secular is this;
organized religions seem to corrupt, and seem to also promote us vs them mentality, and it also seems to promote intolerance, and seems to promote IGNORANCE, ie like such thinking as the world is flat or whatever. But mainly us vs them mentality, since they can never seem to think of themselves as equal to someone else in another religion, or as equal to someone else who is agnostic/atheist etc. Everyone is gonna be equal in this movement, and this movement will have to be number 1 priority, so religion cannot be there, since real religious people should be putting religion/god above EVERYTHING else in life, no? So yeah. If you wanna be spiritual or religious, do it in your own time and i won't care. But this group and it's goals have to come first, above nationalism, above religion, above everything. That's the only way we'll accomplish anything..
It won't be purely anti theist(i think, let me know what you guys think), or hate on religions since like 75% of people in the world seem to identify as religious, no?) but it will be secular in nature, and it will also promote education/reason/logic. So obviously things without proof like gods or anything else which cannot be backed up and go against reason/logic will not be part of it. This doesn't mean that there won't be any 'spiritual' aspect to it, but it just won't be promoting the "us vs them" mentality and the groupthink that organized religion has fallen prey to.
The main ideas are to stop wars/conflict, and to make the world more secular and less ignorant/corrupt, and to hold those in power to account and make things more transparent. So basically i wanna improve on our current democratic ideals and use the internet to improve the world and address/solve the worlds most pressing problems. We can't just rely on benevolent billionaires like Bill Gates or rely on whistleblowers and activists like Snowden/Assange to martyr themselves over and over, when no one will even step up to the plate to continue in their footsteps after.. I think the internet and shit like leaking(wikileaks) etc has played a huge part in it, and i want to continue that trend, and hopefully before the govs of the world crack down on internet and force people like me to no longer be able to talk or even THINK about doing something like this, which probably won't be too far off, based on the shit i've seen.. like how China is gonna make everyone who posts on forums to have to use their real name by OCT 1st THIS YEAR!
This is where i'm at currently, it's a work in progress. Let me know your ideas on how to use the power of the internet and global communication in order to make a better world for EVERYONE. The catholic church/religious organizations and other corporations use their global nature and pooled resources to fuck with national level politics, so why shouldn't we?
Let me know what you guys think, and whether any of you guys would be interested in joining and also recruiting others in your country/region/area etc or wanna be an organizer/contributor or whatever etc.
Let me also know if you have any other ideas for what i can add to the mission statement, and what other shit i need to think about in terms of organization/rallying people to this movement/cause/idea.
EDIT:From what i've gathered speaking to people, apathy and selfishness are real hurdles that we need to overcome. Capitalistic system hasn't helped to promote the growth of such movements as the one i have envisioned. That's why when i see people say they are christian etc, i call bullsiht. If they were real christians, they should/would be supporting such movements as mine, or their church would be promoting such ideas in the first place. But since they don't, and since none of their congregation or whatever don't call them out on it, i don't have much hope. But if you never ask/try, you will never know, so yeah.
Also, once people get married and/or have kids, their whole world turns into selfishness, and they get 'fuck the world, i'm only here for my family' mentality, and then it's 'too late' for them. They have too much to lose, and cannot give up their current way of life or they have to pay off mortgage n shit etc. It's a vicious cycle, and i understand. But i also don't buy the reasoning that they are 'innocent' either, since they are the ones who chose to have kids and they are the ones who chose to get a mortgage etc. Jesus never had kids or had mortgage, and priests n shit don't have kids/family just for this very reason, so they can do the 'lords work', and not be 'corrupted' by earthly/materialistic urges, no?